Comments on: Atlanta Policeman Drives Motorcycle Into Crowd

By: antifeudalist

antifeudalist — Sat, 12 Nov 2011 06:21:13 +0000

People of America must understand that you are the victim of feudal capitalist system that tries to keep you in control. I support your struggle that could be the beginning of a change in the state system of the United States. Why should the middle and poorer classes in the U.S. are discriminated against in terms of education, medical treatment, employment, and why should all become victims of a certain class of people getting rich. ]]>

By: robertf

robertf — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:25:18 +0000

notyour99pct — i sure hope not! i don’t want such ignorant people around me! people like that are the reasons we’re IN this mess!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ – even in COMMUNIST CHINA they knew not to RUN INTO PEOPLE ON THE STREET WHEN THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING. what you are saying is ok is basically violence of the state on the public. so should these tanks run down this man? do you think the massacre after was OK? you probably do, you sick, sick horrible person. may god have mercy on your soul.

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By: robertf

robertf — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:20:52 +0000

in order to have a voice you must be a person first. i see no indication you are human given your lack of information. ]]>

By: robertf

robertf — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:19:56 +0000

Sorry andrwatin, but you’re denser than a rock at the center of a black hole. You speculate on what you saw — I saw there, 30 feet in front of the crowd and I saw the cop drive his motorcycle INTO SOMEONE. that is NOT how you clear a street. if that was supposedly their M.O., then why didn’t they do that EVERY TIME? clearly the dude screwed up because he was a foolish ignorant moron. that’s NOT how you operate a vehicle, and the mere fact you think that’s ok invalidates your whole argument. so learn a thing or two, understand the truth of the matter instead of thinking you actually can instigate something. sorry, you’re just a liar. ]]>

By: rememberlove

rememberlove — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:41:34 +0000

If you go to east Atlanta cop watch, the video posted there clearly shows how fast the cop was going upon entering the crowd. Yes, people positioned themselves in front of it, and it barely had time to stop. They reacted with anger for such reckless endangerment, and the motivation of people who jumped in front could be interpreted as defending the safety of other protestors. The cop was able to see those who jumped in front approaching, but had they not put their bodies on the line, would the cop have seen another, unaware, person accidentally step out? I don’t think so. View the variety of videos online and this will become obvious.

I am confused as to why the one individual in the backpack is being blamed for this entire incident, when there were at least four people in total who participated in pushing the motorcycle.

What a strange incident…did the backpack dude seek an opportunity to get violent of his own volition, or was he a provocateur hired by the cops/feds? The way he was tackled leads me to believe it was not the latter.

I love you all. United, through peace, WE the people will prevail.

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By: rememberlove

rememberlove — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:31:48 +0000

I completely agree that the “peace enforcement” ironically was aiming to incite a riot. Unfortunately those bodies which stepped out to stop the roll of the officer on the motorcycle “bucked up” and took the bait.

I agree with the movement. I am happy to see that Americans are finally standing up for that which they believe…but we must remain committed to nonviolence.

The government aims at invoking violence must not be met and materialized. The goal the government’s invoking violence is what will delegitimatize the movement and give it a bad name. It will muddle the point. It will stratify and divide, it will create “us against them”…and that is the last thing we need.

There is no enemy, although you may disagree and have a place to point the finger…the goal is to make a better world for EVERYONE. Even the top 1% will benefit from a more just, fair, loving world. We must meet the system where it is at, and convince EVERYONE that EVERYONE will benefit. We need to adjust the rules of the game so that we are all contenders. This is more about the 100% than the 99%…although it was a great marketing tactic to refer to the majority as 99% for empowerment and inclusiveness reasons.

Remember, this is not about police and civilian disagreement. Look to Phoenix, the Armed Guard is defending the protestors. Police have joined the occupy movement. This involved no violence. Stress the importance of nonviolence. Require or encourage ALL PARTICIPANTS OF THE OCCUPY to have serious conversations about the value of nonviolence, why it has worked in the past; role play situations like this motorcycle incidence to determine (and practice) how one might act faced with a split second decision, suggest options (e.g. sitting down), and determine how committed the GROUP is to nonviolence. This motorcycle situation involves a couple of individuals who have now given the movement a bad name. Do everything in your ability to change that reputation, and prevent it in the future.

Create an air of peaceful inclusiveness, and the whole world will want to join and will then improve. Please.

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By: SaraA

SaraA — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:58:44 +0000

The problem with your scenario is that it isn’t what actually happened. In the reality-based community, running a vehicle into a person is considered assault, and if you kill them it’s vehicular homicide. You might be exonerated if they step out in front of you , but the presumption is ALWAYS on the side of the pedestrian…in situations that are not being manipulated.

It’s also a fact that the APD has so far sent THREE of our people to the hospital and that they have a history of violent behavior.

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By: SaraA

SaraA — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:52:57 +0000

We do actually have an agreed-upon principle in play here. It’s called the Constitution.

And if you think the truth prevails in court when police are concerned, you simply haven’t been paying attention.

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By: SaraA

SaraA — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:50:24 +0000

In the GA we follow agree-upon precepts that include no targeted profanity and no physical or verbal violence. I see no reason why I should tolerate a lower standard here. And don’t intend to. ]]>

By: notyour99pct

notyour99pct — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 05:24:48 +0000

It depends. A typical punch or two exchanged between drunk people? Of course not. If someone attempts to commit a violent felony, however – including aggravated assault – the state of Georgia recognizes the right of the citizenry to act to stop that crime using deadly force if need be.

If someone punched me in a bar fight, no, I wouldn’t respond with deadly force, unless I have reasonable suspicion that my life or safety is endangered.

If I were riding my motorcycle at a walking pace, and was accosted by people trying to block my way in a threatening manner, and then one attempted to push me off of the motorcycle, yes, deadly force is permitted by law. And while you may think that’s excessive, I do personally know someone who was killed in a fall from a motorcycle almost exactly like the one that protester was attempting to cause. And I would certainly hope that you agree with me that if someone puts me to a choice of losing my life or taking his, I have every right to defend my own.

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